{"id":111,"date":"2009-06-05T08:00:02","date_gmt":"2009-06-05T15:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dharmarealm.com\/?p=111"},"modified":"2012-03-25T20:32:51","modified_gmt":"2012-03-26T03:32:51","slug":"listener-question-ordination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.dharmarealm.com\/?p=111","title":{"rendered":"Listener question: ordination"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A listener posed a two-part question via our Facebook page about why there aren&#8217;t monks in the Shin tradition and how one becomes a minister. We tackle this complicated issue by going back to the beginning with a quick overview of Buddhist monastic history from Sakyamuni Buddha through the rest of Asia. Things get a bit complicated in Japan, especially when Honen and Shinran seem to turn the categories of &#8220;monks&#8221; and &#8220;laypeople&#8221; on their heads. This brings us to the second part of the questions, how one actually becomes a Shin minister. So we talk a bit about <em>tokudo<\/em>, the actual ordination ceremony, and other rites and procedures. 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